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WELCOME
Sept 20, 2014 20:54:57 GMT
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Post by Natalie Tenerelli on Sept 20, 2014 20:54:57 GMT
Publicly being declared not retarded / useless / annoying enough to go to the final three with those idiots is all the victory I need. |
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WELCOME
Sept 20, 2014 21:06:13 GMT
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Post by Natalie Tenerelli on Sept 20, 2014 21:06:13 GMT
I think Nat just lost my vote with all her whining. If she'd been the one that went on an immunity streak she'd hardly be calling it luck. And the crack about not being on a tribe with most of the people in the quote challenge? The same thing applied to Alina, and she somehow figured it out. Honestly, of all the players left in the game, Natalie was the least social, at least with me. I actually would call it luck regardless of how it shook out. Remember the time I attributed either of my two immunity wins to any kind of skill? Me neither! Those were both blind luck, no matter how strategically I disbursed my jewels or how I applied basic psychology and research into last season's auction to determine my bid. I might be an antisocial bitch, but I'm an objective antisocial bitch. And, yeah, I was no social dynamo. I was busy with another online commitment while the merge was happening, and after Colby left I figured I was toast, so why bother making connections that wouldn't keep me in the game, when I could invest that time and energy elsewhere and get a better result? When Edgardo saved me and I suddenly became the number two seed to win (though WHY you guys would have voted for me I will never know. Objectively I'm actually pretty embarrassed by how badly I did at this game) I figured that acting like a spaz in front of the jury was the best way to keep the target off me. It would have worked pretty well if Kelly hadn't been so suicidally stupid this round. In fact, I'll probably vote for Denise because she at least can honestly say she has no clue what she's doing. I'll vote for someone why tries and fails over someone who actively bombs their own game any day. |
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Post by lexvandenberghe on Sept 21, 2014 20:21:53 GMT
Well, to be honest, Kelly made the smart play. You were definitely beating her in a FTC.
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Post by Natalie Tenerelli on Sept 21, 2014 21:09:01 GMT
I really don't see why. Kelly made way more moves than I did. I mean, I guess I probably am a better talker than her, but so's a gerbil... so...
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Post by Natalie Tenerelli on Sept 22, 2014 3:10:08 GMT
UGH WORST RESULT EVER.
Congrats to Denise on getting my vote automatically.
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Post by Colby Donaldson on Sept 22, 2014 4:45:00 GMT
You really will vote for Denise to win even though Kelly played better just because you're mad at her? Ya it was questionable for her to vote you out and not Alina but she did end up doing better than Alina in this challenge which you may have beat her in. I understand the Kelly hate from you guys but lets not be bitter and vote for Denise out of spite, the sole survivor should deserve the title. You might've been sarcastic idk but it kinda goes for everyone cause I've seen multiple people crap on Kelly's game and while that did include me I think it's important that we still vote without being angry about our own boots.
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Post by charlie on Sept 22, 2014 6:53:47 GMT
i mean they both suck so  ? idk who I'm voting yet |
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Post by Natalie Tenerelli on Sept 22, 2014 7:35:28 GMT
You really will vote for Denise to win even though Kelly played better just because you're mad at her? Ya it was questionable for her to vote you out and not Alina but she did end up doing better than Alina in this challenge which you may have beat her in. I understand the Kelly hate from you guys but lets not be bitter and vote for Denise out of spite, the sole survivor should deserve the title. You might've been sarcastic idk but it kinda goes for everyone cause I've seen multiple people crap on Kelly's game and while that did include me I think it's important that we still vote without being angry about our own boots. Colby, I don't buy the "it's smart because it worked" argument. Alina won 4 challenges, and I won 2 on blind luck. Even her rationale about it being a puzzle was stupid, because Denise beat me at puzzles. And, for the record, I did actually tell Kelly that I was telling other people I'd vote her off. She knew well in advance that I was doing that, so her backstabbing me for doing it instead of trying to sit down and use her brain was just ridiculous. Besides, what's the rationale for why Denise doesn't deserve it? I actually sat down and thought about this today, and I couldn't come up with a reason, other than that people say they won't vote for her. Well, frankly, that's crap. You guys were all going to vote for me to win, and I didn't do shit to deserve it, so I think it's safe to say that that concrete voting order you guys designed isn't foolproof. Compare that to Kelly. Multiple people have crapped all over Kelly's game, which would probably indicate that Kelly's game is terrible. I haven't heard anybody crap on Denise's game yet. Denise as a person? Absolutely. But Denise's game? I have yet to hear any legitimate beef with it. Yes, Denise flipped on you, and then she turned her back on the boys. Well, hell, I'd have done the same thing. Were you more loyal to Denise than you were to me or Kelly? I sure as hell wasn't. I daresay same thing goes for the boys/ Looking at Malcolm, Charlie, Lex, and Alina, I would never say to myself that that was a group I thought I could win with, no matter what promises were being made to me. Can any of you guys honestly tell me that you wanted to be in the finals with Denise before the Malcolm blindside happened? As I see it, Denise was on the bottom with both alliances, everybody had deeper connections with people that weren't her, and she managed to get to the end while we're all here. Far as I'm concerned, she did what she had to do, and she did it well. She didn't screw people unnecessarily the way that Kelly did, she just did what she had to do when she had to do it. Keep in mind, guys, Denise is a first time player. 90% of the first-timers I've seen have been idiots who let other people tell them how to play and just go along with whatever the stronger players tell them to do. For her to figure out that she was low on the totem pole and change things up to put herself in a better position is amazing. It's the ORG equivalent of mankind figuring out that the earth was round instead of flat. So, am I mad at Kelly? Yes. I think she's dumber than a sock full of soup, and I've had more interesting conversations with my toaster. But does that affect my vote even slightly? No. I vote based on gameplay. As far as I see it, every move that Denise made, she made because it was the best move for her to make. I respect her game, even though it was UTR, and I think that if she had played any differently, she would have been voted out. After all, if you're in the spot where everybody's fighting to take you to the final two, why would you try and change that? That's why I'm voting for Denise, and why I hope that you guys will think twice before handing Kelly a vote that you'll regret. |
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Post by lexvandenberghe on Sept 22, 2014 16:39:10 GMT
Sometimes goats bite.
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Post by charlie on Sept 22, 2014 20:14:57 GMT
ugh, tl;dr
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Post by charlie on Sept 22, 2014 20:19:49 GMT
ok i read it.
Eh. I see positives for both. I don't think Kelly voting you out was dumb, Natalie. It just seems that way. I think if she wanted any chance to win, she had to have done that at some point. If for some reason you or Denise won the F3 immunity and brought her to the F2, she would have lost because either 1) you take her to F2 and you win, or 2) Denise takes out the big threat (you) and wins. I think she had to vote you out to prove she had a mind of her own and she took the opportunity.
Denise I think had to have done something right by merging as the only member of her tribe, but I can't say 1 thing she actually has done that was right? We may not be able to say "She doesn't deserve it" but what are things she has actually done TO deserve it? Yeah it's cool she made it to the end from being the only member of her tribe to make merge but can she say HOW she did it, other than, "I was dragged here"? Not to mention during the voting period for the TC I left, she was literally campaigning for my jury vote which was a huge turn off for me.
Denise may have been a first time player, but so was Alina. And Alina did it better. Maybe Denise made the F2, but Alina played a respectable game deserving of the win. I don't feel either of the two finalists have done that.
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Post by Natalie Tenerelli on Sept 22, 2014 21:42:29 GMT
Yes, but could Kelly have gotten here without Denise? Because Denise could absolutely have gotten here without Kelly.
Keep in mind, Denise could have gone either way at the final four, and she chose to sell me out and go with Kelly. There was a significant risk that Kelly would run straight to me and tell me Denise was selling me out, so it was a pretty bold move on Denise's part. Kelly's only part of that move was to be a fucking moron and blindly accept what she was told.
That's the best instance I can come up with for a Denise move off the top of my head, because I don't know her entire game, but from what I've seen she instigated more moves and timed her actions way better than Kelly did.
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Post by Natalie Tenerelli on Sept 22, 2014 21:43:47 GMT
And, I could care less that Denise was campaigning. I respect someone who tries to get votes more than I respect someone who's overtly pissing them away, which both Kelly and Alina did.
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Post by Alina Wilson on Sept 22, 2014 22:20:38 GMT
No, I talked to Denise and Kelly and they both said "I'll do it if the other person does". I made a group chat and invited them both and told them they both said that. It wasn't Denise's idea at all to flip on you, she took no risk whatsoever.
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Post by edgardo on Sept 22, 2014 22:44:13 GMT
You really will vote for Denise to win even though Kelly played better just because you're mad at her? Ya it was questionable for her to vote you out and not Alina but she did end up doing better than Alina in this challenge which you may have beat her in. I understand the Kelly hate from you guys but lets not be bitter and vote for Denise out of spite, the sole survivor should deserve the title. You might've been sarcastic idk but it kinda goes for everyone cause I've seen multiple people crap on Kelly's game and while that did include me I think it's important that we still vote without being angry about our own boots.
and the best thing about being a juror is we can be BITTER AS FUCK!!!!! 
we can vote whoever the fuck we want to vote, there are no rules! and if she hates the fact that there are some bitter jurors, well bitch you should have managed your jury better!
so as it stands right now.. Denise is getting my vote, and I have my reasons, but it may change we'll see
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